Patti Smith shares with Anderson Cooper what she learned in her grief, particularly after a period in her life when she lost her husband, Fred "Sonic" Smith, and her brother Todd just a month apart. She says people should be able to grieve in their own ways, without judgment. Watch more and join the conversation at cnn.com/allthereis | CNN

Patti Smith and Anderson Cooper listen to “Farewell Reel,” a song Patti released in 1996 after her husband, Fred “Sonic” Smith, died. “Every line in it is true,” she tells Anderson. Watch more conversations about grief at cnn.com/allthereis | All There Is with Anderson Cooper